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Hey friends! Welcome back to The Mom-entum Podcast! The show dedicated to inspiring, uplifting and empowering women on their journey through motherhood.

 If you’re anything like me, your phone is overflowing with thousands of photos—random screenshots, blurry toddler action shots, and those surprise close-ups of feet and nostrils from when your kids hijack your phone.

It’s a hot mess, and honestly, scrolling through to find one specific photo can feel like looking for a needle in a haystack.

That’s why I’m so excited for today’s guest, Angela Andrieux! Angela is a fine art photographer and photography coach who specializes in helping people organize, edit, and protect their precious memories. With over 15 years in the industry, she has a gift for making complicated tech stuff feel simple—exactly what busy moms need!

Today, she’s going to walk us through how to declutter and organize our digital photo chaos, plus how to actually back up and protect our memories—because let’s be real, most of us have no idea if our photos are truly safe.

And speaking of backups… wait until you hear this shocking fact I just learned about flash drives! I had no idea they only last 3-5 years and need to be plugged in occasionally to stay functional. I’m now praying I didn’t just lose all my wedding photos because I never knew this! Maybe it’s common knowledge, but no one told me! So hopefully, by sharing my mistake, I’ll save someone else’s memories.

Oh, and make sure you stay tuned until the end because I have an exclusive discount code for an amazing photo editing, storage, and organization software that will make this whole process so much easier!

Alright, let’s dive in—Angela, welcome to The Mom-entum Podcast!

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Tanya: Welcome to the momentum. Podcast. Angela. Thank you. So much for being here.

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Angela Andrieux: Thanks for having me. This is gonna be a lot of fun.

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Tanya: Yeah, I'm so happy to have you here, and I'm excited to get into this conversation today. I can't wait for myself and my listeners to learn from you, and I'm ready to start taking notes.

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Tanya: So you are a fine art photographer, a photography coach, and an expert in organizing, editing, and saving photos. And in this day and age, where we almost always have access to a camera using our phones, it's so easy to take photos and capture our memories.

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Tanya: And because of this convenience we all have a plethora of photos and videos picking up storage on our devices.

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Tanya: I mean, as of today. I looked at all my photos. And I have 5,725 photos and videos saved on my phone.

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Tanya: So I love the idea of going through and sorting these photos in a way that would make them easier to find, and organized in a way that it actually looks nice and neat and is enjoyable to go through. But with

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Tanya: just about 6,000 photos and videos, it's a bit overwhelming to know where to start

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Tanya: so for those of us who are overwhelmed at the thought of organizing the thousands of photos scattered across our devices. Can you tell us, where do we even start.

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Angela Andrieux: So that's an awesome question. And I know a lot of people are at that same place in their lives where they just have a ton of stuff on all all the different devices, different clouds, different phones, different drives.

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Angela Andrieux: The 1st thing I would recommend is getting them all into one place. So the company that I work for my Leo, we have a software called my Leo photos.

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Angela Andrieux: and it helps you gather all of your media into a single location. So you import your media from your phones, from all these different places, and it gets it into one place, and it can even then back up those things to what we call a vault. So let's say, you connect an external drive to your computer and you add this drive as a vault. It will take all the media from all those places and put it all in that one place.

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Angela Andrieux: So that's where I would start is gathering, and that's going to be the biggest thing, because you can't enjoy a picture that you can't find. So as you start pulling in things from these different places, you're going to be just rediscovering those memories as you go through that process. But that's the 1st thing is just to gather and decide. What do you want to have in your library and get it all into one place. And Miley makes that actually, really easy.

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Tanya: Okay.

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Tanya: And this seems like a massive time consuming task, just gathering everything and going through it all and deciding like how to get it organized. So how can a busy mom realistically squeeze photo organization into her already packed schedule.

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Angela Andrieux: So I think it's really going to depend on the mom and

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Angela Andrieux: how detail oriented she is. There's different levels of organization. People can take on what their final goal is. So for somebody like me, I'm like the most perfectionist of perfectionist, and I like to have everything perfect. But that's not

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Angela Andrieux: realistic for even me, much less the busy mom. So what I like to suggest is you, that 1st step is to gather everything into one place once you do that with my Leo photos. It has some things in there that what we call auto organization that

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Angela Andrieux: lets you find things the way that you think so? There is a calendar view. It'll automatically take all of these pictures from all these different sources and just put them onto a calendar for you. So if you are somebody who finds things based on when they happened, regardless of what source they came from. You can look on this calendar.

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Angela Andrieux: It also has a people view. So as you go through new tag faces of the people who are important to you, you can go into this people view and say, I want to find all these pictures of my kid and bam. There's all of the pictures of that one child.

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Angela Andrieux: There's a map view which uses since we're all you know, taking pictures of our phone GPS information is automatically embedded. You can look at the map. And if you're, you know, going a bunch of different places. Maybe you want to find all the pictures of your kid

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Angela Andrieux: at this particular sporting event, and you know it took place at this field. You zoom in on the map on that place, bam, there's all those pictures, and that's without having to do any kind of manual organization. On top of that, my Leo photos does what we call dynamic indexing.

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Angela Andrieux: and that's just a fancy word for saying we take a look at your pictures and glean a lot of information out of them. So not just those dates and the people that are in them and so forth. But there's also AI object recognition. So it's going to find things like dogs and cats and trees and beaches and skies, and over a thousand different terms are AI recognized. And this runs locally on your computer. So it's completely private.

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Angela Andrieux: It also has Ocr, which is optical character recognition, meaning it can read text and photos. So if you took a picture of the sign next to the field where your kids playing, you're like, okay. I remember what the name of the place was. You type it in. It's going to find that sign because that text is in the picture.

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Angela Andrieux: And so it has this amazing search tool that lets you search and filter, and also find things that way. So if all you have time to do is get your stuff into the program, all of that is there for you without having to spend any additional time.

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Angela Andrieux: The next level of that would be, I think, going through. And you want to definitely add those face tags. You might want to add information about, you know, a specific event that was happening. You can add titles and captions to pictures and things like that for those most important things. And you can group things together in albums which are virtual groupings to say, Okay, I want to put together all the pictures from my kids 1st year, and you make an album for that

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Angela Andrieux: or the best pictures even. So that's kind of you know. The next level, you can start doing that. And that's virtual organization. And again, it's just making those things easier to find later on when you want them.

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Angela Andrieux: Now, if you have a little bit more time, and you're highly detailed. You can go in there. You can start moving things around in the file system and getting like a very specific folder hierarchy and things like that, if you want. But I would say that's the last step, and that most busy moms

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Angela Andrieux: probably don't need to go that far because the goal is to be able to find things when you need them. And just those 1st couple of steps is gonna accomplish that for you.

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Tanya: Okay. So gathering all of your photos, then using a tool like milio

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Tanya: to automatically organize everything for you would save you time.

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Tanya: And there are several different options to start with, and you can go detailed later. But just to get a start on things you said Calendar view like organizing it by like when it happened you could do by, based on, like the people that are in the pictures. And where they happened to, were a few things I heard you say, Okay.

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Angela Andrieux: Yeah. And milio does all that for you. It's nothing. The only manual part of that process is tagging the faces. So when you bring pictures into my Lea photos. It looks for recognizable faces, and then it's up to you to name those faces, and once you name somebody 10 to 15 times.

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Angela Andrieux: There's a batch tagging tool that will automatically group together similar faces, and you can go through and name everybody very quickly. And if there's a bunch of people you don't know. You can just hit, ignore.

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Tanya: Okay.

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Angela Andrieux: So you can go through. And that's how the naming part that's like, really the only in that 1st level of organization that you need to do hands on. And it's actually really fun to me. It was almost like a game. It's like I wanted to get that number of end tag faces down as low as I could.

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Tanya: Okay?

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Tanya: All right. And then what's the best process for decluttering digital photos like, how do we go from a jumbled mess to a system that actually works.

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Angela Andrieux: So there's a couple of really great tools inside of my Leo photos that can help with this. The 1st one is what we call photo dedupe. And it's a deduplication tool. So a lot of times, if you've had things scattered on various devices.

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Angela Andrieux: maybe a few years ago, you decided I want to put everything on Google photos. And then you go. Oh, I ran out of space on Google Photos. They want to charge me this number of dollars. Now, I'm just going to stick with apple. And then maybe you got to that same point. Maybe some of the pictures from Google made it over to Apple. And then you have, you know, maybe this hard drive on your computer from pictures from even before that.

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Angela Andrieux: And all of these things might have some level of overlap in what's inside them. So photod goes to those pictures and helps you identify the exact duplicates so you can either pull them out of your library or permanently delete them.

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Angela Andrieux: I'm a big advocate for the permanently delete, because otherwise you're just kind of kicking the can down the road, so go ahead, clean up those exact duplicates, and that's going to shrink down your library, save you hard, drive space and make it easier to find things.

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Angela Andrieux: The next thing we have is called photo declutter, and this helps you gather all of your burst mode images into a group. So let's say you're at the soccer field with your son, and he's playing a game running down the field, and you just sit there and hold down that button on your phone. You capture an entire series of 15 or 20 images? Well, maybe only

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Angela Andrieux: one or 3 of those images are really actually worth keeping. The ones that he's got this great face of determination. His feet are off the ground. You can see the forward motion like. There's something in those pictures that really speaks to you the rest of them. There might be awkward faces. There might be, you know, just different things that you're like. Okay. The rest of those I don't need and declutter helps you gather those so you can take a look at them all in one place and be like, all right. Here's the 3 I want to keep delete the rest of these.

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Angela Andrieux: and it's an amazing tool for just decluttering. So those are the 2 things that I would work with in my Leo, that'll help you clean things up tremendously. There's also tools to help you rate things, and if you want to put a pick flag on things or things you want to mark as like, you know, 4 and 5 star images. You can do all of that as well.

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Tanya: Okay.

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Tanya: and then many of us don't know if our photos are properly backed up or safe. So what are the best ways to ensure our memories are protected.

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Angela Andrieux: So I like to suggest using the 3, 2, 1 backup method and one of the challenges that I find a lot of people have with their pictures is they think that because their stuff is stored in the cloud, you have an iphone stuff is stored in apple photos. It's on the cloud that it's backed up. But apple photos is one place, even if some of it's on your phone, some of it's in the cloud. That's still one place, it's not a backup.

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Angela Andrieux: So you want to have at least 3 copies of your media.

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Angela Andrieux: and I suggest you have, you know, your 1st copy, your main copy. Then you have a backup that you keep locally.

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Angela Andrieux: and then a 3rd copy that's stored off site. So to simplify that if you have my Leo photos. What you can do I mentioned earlier. You can have my Leo, save all of your pictures to what we call protection vault, hard drive that you designate sits on your desk.

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Angela Andrieux: I suggest having 2 of those.

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Angela Andrieux: So you have your originals and a backup copy sitting there on your desk. If one of those drives fails. You have another drive.

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Angela Andrieux: and then to have an offsite backup as well. So that's where the cloud can be really helpful. Whatever cloud service you want to use. My Leo has one, but this is completely optional, but it gives you an offsite copy. So we were talking before we started recording about. You know, some of the natural disasters that have been happening recently.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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Angela Andrieux: People lose everything if you all you have are those 2 copies that are sitting on your desk and your home burns down. Those are gone. That's where that offsite backup comes in really handy. And milio can automate this for you. So you get everything into my Leo photos. You tell it where you want things stored, and it will automatically do that for you. And as you add a new media, it will synchronize all those locations.

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Tanya: But so Icloud doesn't do that because I thought that that's what the cloud was.

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Angela Andrieux: So what Icloud is doing is it's it's really just storing. That's the one copy. Now, I would say Apple is pretty secure, and I'm sure they have redundancies on their end, too. But if you delete something apple photos on your phone, it deletes it everywhere, right? And let's say one of your kids gets a hold of your phone and delete stuff on your apple photos. You don't have a backup anywhere else.

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Tanya: Okay, so.

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Angela Andrieux: So it's just the one place. So nothing wrong with apple photos. It's a it's a great tool. But you want to make sure your stuff is in more than one place to protect it.

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Tanya: Okay. So you're saying when you say 2 desktops. So you mean like a hard drive on like 2 separate laptops, or like a laptop, and like your desktop.

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Angela Andrieux: No, no. So a a laptop or computer, whatever computer you're using. And then 2 external hard drives.

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Tanya: Okay.

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Angela Andrieux: So like, and they can be like little small Ssds. They don't have to be anything big or clunky.

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Angela Andrieux: but just 2 separate drives that your pictures are going to, and each one has a copy of your photos. So that way, if one of those drives fails, you have another one.

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Tanya: Because drives fail.

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Angela Andrieux: A typical hard drive has a life lifespan of 3 to 5 years.

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Angela Andrieux: They are going to fail.

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Angela Andrieux: And same with your computer. So again, you don't want to keep everything all in just one place, because the chances of that failing and not being able to retrieve it is really pretty high.

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Tanya: The lifespan is 3 to 5 years on those disks.

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Angela Andrieux: Yep.

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Tanya: The Oh, my God or not! What are they?

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Angela Andrieux: Some can last much longer, and I've had some last less than a year.

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Angela Andrieux: It just depends.

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Tanya: Oh, my gosh! I didn't even realize that.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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Angela Andrieux: So yeah, if you've got an external drive you've been using. And it's been, you know, kicking along for, you know, 7 or 8 years. Just understand that that's near the end of its life.

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Angela Andrieux: and if it may start giving you trouble, you want to make sure that's not the only place where your stuff lives. The other thing to consider with external hard drives is the ones that have moving parts like the traditional HDD drives hard disk drives because they have the moving parts. They need to be spun up

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Angela Andrieux: pretty frequently. If you have them just sitting on the shelf in a closet they degrade, and the next time you plug them in they might not work.

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Tanya: Oh no!

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Angela Andrieux: Ssds are a little bit more robust that way, and they are not because they don't have moving parts.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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Angela Andrieux: They are a little bit more stable, so there's trade offs.

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Tanya: Oh, my gosh! Now, I'm like kind of panicking inside, because I'm thinking I have like our wedding photos stored on one of the, and I haven't plugged that in in a while. Oh, my goodness, okay, well.

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Angela Andrieux: Plug that in after our call.

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Tanya: Okay, I will. Oh, my goodness, thank you. I'm so glad that I'm having you on today. Okay, so I know there are so many options out there.

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Tanya: or have kind of already got into this. But like, there's apple photos, Google drive. There's also dropbox. And now, my Leo, how do we decide which tool is best

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Tanya: for organizing and storing our photos?

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Angela Andrieux: So that's an excellent question. And each person is going to be a little bit different. So

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Angela Andrieux: apple photos and Google photos are both decent options. Apple photos is awesome if you have an apple household. So if everybody in your household is using apple products that can be a great solution, and it comes free with your devices until you hit that certain point where your devices start running out of space, and then you have to pay for the cloud storage. So there is that kind of cut off. But it's an excellent thing, and it's it's pretty secure, as far as being, you know, repellent to.

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Angela Andrieux: You know, malware attacks and anything like that that can happen.

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Angela Andrieux: Photos I've heard of more problems with. And also they are more prone to look at your pictures and use that to advertise things to you. I think Apple does a better job with privacy. That's my personal opinion. Google, you know. Anytime you have a free service.

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Angela Andrieux: You're the product.

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Angela Andrieux: So Mileo photos is a paid service. But we are privacy focused and that your pictures are yours. You get to choose where they're stored, so whether you want them on the cloud or you don't want them on the cloud. Some people are very sensitive to that. They don't want to have any of their stuff out there in somebody else's server that they can't control. My Leo lets you choose, so you can have everything local. If you want

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Angela Andrieux: or choose to have an encrypted offsite backup. So you can encrypt your stuff. So whatever place you're storing it on that can be Google drive that can be Amazon. Aws, if you've got a massive library things like this, you can encrypt it. So those services can't read what you're storing there.

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Angela Andrieux: So there's some other privacy tools. So for people who are concerned about privacy, something like my Leo photos gives you a ton more peace of mind.

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Angela Andrieux: But it's just it's different. Trade offs. Something like dropbox is a place to just store things that's really great, for on demand meeting files.

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Angela Andrieux: I wouldn't necessarily use that for my primary photo storage, but it's a great way to, you know. Share a group of files with somebody else, and I keep a lot of documents and stuff on dropbox. I don't really use it for photo storage.

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Tanya: Okay, okay, what about kids? Artwork and printed photos like Polka session?

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Tanya: I don't have any baby albums of any of my kids, like all my pictures are just on my phone, and I think it's just this thing where, like cause I recently dove into like this

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Tanya: big bin that my parents sent me full of like tons of pictures from when I was a baby and a child, but I think the difference then was they couldn't look at the photos after they took them. So.

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Tanya: Then you go and get them developed because you want to see how they came out, whereas now, like we get to see what it looks like instantly.

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Tanya: So it's just like it's convenient to take them. But sort of like inconvenient to develop them, you know. But I'd love to create one for each of them an album. But it feels like such a huge project. So where can I start? And how can I make this process as simple as possible, so that I actually get it done.

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Angela Andrieux: Well. So the 1st part of the question you asked was about your kids artwork, and what to do with all the paper.

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Tanya: Yeah.

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Angela Andrieux: So one of the things I've done in my own library is

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Angela Andrieux: any kind of like memorabilia, whether it's a card from my grandma or a drawing that my mom sent me, or a little note she packed in something, you know, just all these little pieces of paper that we accumulate.

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Tanya: Yes.

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Angela Andrieux: And whether you do that, you know, by taking a picture with your phone, or you have, you know, maybe you're all in one printer that you have at home, and you've got a flatbed scanner that you can use that whatever method it is to capture that. Take a picture of it or scan it.

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Angela Andrieux: and then let the paper go.

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Angela Andrieux: Now keep the things that are, you know, really, truly sentimental, like. Maybe you know the last letter your grandma wrote you, or something like that. Those kinds of things like those are hard to get rid of. And you know your kids, you know, are, you know award winning thing that they got at the end of the year they got a ribbon for. Okay. Maybe you don't want to get rid of that one. But you know the day to day sketches that they hand you. Maybe you take a picture of that, and then you let the paper go after it's sat on the fridge for a couple of weeks. I think that's a great way to handle those now, as far as creating those baby books.

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Angela Andrieux: Miley photos can make that easy. So once you've gone and you've done your face tagging.

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Angela Andrieux: you go ahead and go into the collection, for let's say, child, 1st child, and let's say, 1st child was born in 2018. And so you want to find things from the 1st year. So you look for all the pictures between 2018 and 2019 that just have the pictures of that child.

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Angela Andrieux: So as you're looking through those you're going. Okay, here are my favorites. These are the best ones. These are the ones I want to use in my baby book. You can create an album which is a virtual collection inside of my Leo. Put all of those into an album, and then you can go ahead and do any editing you want on those, you know. Maybe one needs to be brightened up. Maybe one needs to be toned down a little bit. Whatever you want to do. Once those are ready to print, you can either export those to work with any print lab that you want. But we actually have an integration with Printiq.

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Angela Andrieux: which is a print lab associated with Adorama camera, which is one of the biggest camera stores in the Us. And their print lab is fantastic. I've ordered a bunch of stuff from them myself.

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Angela Andrieux: and you can have Mileo upload the pictures directly to their platform and then go in and select one of the photo books and create a photo book that way.

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Angela Andrieux: There's a couple of different ways. You can do that. Once you're in there you can have it. Just auto populate a book for you. So if you're in a hurry, and you're like, I just need to get something done. Have it auto populate, print your book. There you go, or if you want to spend a little bit more time putting captions on things, putting down different memories, putting in some text things like that. You absolutely can do that and then move things around. Change the cropping, and you can get as creative as you want, or you can kind of have it put together and be like, all right. It's done. Here's your book. I love you.

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Tanya: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

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Tanya: I love that. You can do everything on there like edit as well as put like captions underneath the photos, too.

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Angela Andrieux: Yeah, definitely.

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Tanya: Brent.

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Tanya: So where do you think most people get stuck in this decluttering and organization process when it comes to our digital clutter.

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Angela Andrieux: So everybody kind of, I think different people. Different people get stuck at different points. But I think the kind of commonality I see is you, you get a program like Mileo, you get excited. You start the process. And at some point it goes from fun to being work.

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Angela Andrieux: Yeah, yes, that resonates with me.

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Angela Andrieux: and that's why I say, you know, you have to kind of take it in pieces if you try to tackle this project all at once. It's going to become overwhelming, really quick.

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Angela Andrieux: So maybe you decide, okay.

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Angela Andrieux: this week I'm going to pull in all the pictures for my phone and start face tagging those

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Angela Andrieux: cool. And then maybe next week or next month, I'm gonna go hunt down those couple of external hard drives. I have find the pictures on those, and we're gonna add those in and just try to take it in manageable chunks. Don't try to do everything at once, because you're gonna burn out.

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Angela Andrieux: Okay, so don't try to do everything at once.

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Tanya: Okay, alright noted. Okay. Now, what about like creating a routine? Once we get our photos organized, how do we maintain it? Is there a simple routine we can follow.

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Angela Andrieux: So it's really going to depend on your lifestyle. And how much time you want to spend behind the screen, whether that's your computer or your phone, or wherever you're doing your photo management.

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Angela Andrieux: I suggest, if you're somebody who's really enjoying this process, you can do it once a week. But if it's more of a like. Okay, it's kind of hit that work point. Set aside a couple hours every month. So maybe, like the last weekend of each month. Know that you're going to sit down for a couple of hours with a cup of tea or a cup of coffee, and you're just going to sort through that last month's worth of worth of pictures

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Angela Andrieux: you're going to go through and look at those burst modes and pick out the 2 or 3 that are the best you're going to, you know. Get rid of anything that's blurry, or like you were walking through the big box store and took a picture of something to send to your spouse and say, Do we need this? You're going to delete those kinds of things, and just to keep things clean and tidy, and I think that's the best way to maintain is just to set aside a little pocket of time once a month, or even once a quarter if you're super busy, and once a month is even too much

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Angela Andrieux: pick, you know. A few hours at least once a quarter.

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Tanya: Okay, I love that advice. And then.

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Tanya: if there's 1 key piece of advice

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Tanya: or encouragement, you want people to take away from this conversation. What would it be.

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Angela Andrieux: So I thought about this, and I think the best answer is kind of my personal mantra, which is progress over perfection.

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Tanya: I love that.

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Angela Andrieux: And it's just. It's something that I have to kind of. Go back to every day with my own life. Because I mentioned I'm a perfectionist. I like things a certain way, but life happens. And so you just need to focus on. You know, I made some progress on this. It may not be perfect, but it's better than it was, and by preserving those details and getting those things organized

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Angela Andrieux: when the time comes to hand those memories over to your kids. They're going to be that much better organized. And they're actually able to find the things that are important.

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Tanya: Yeah, yeah, and I've

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Tanya: that saves you time there, having it organized like it, it's time put in on the front end, that, you will save later.

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Angela Andrieux: Absolutely.

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Tanya: Right? Yeah, I love. I love that progress over perfection and perfection slows us down, too. We don't even start

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Angela Andrieux: Can be paralyzing.

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Tanya: Yes, absolutely all right, Angela. Where can people find you? And do you have any offers or resources that you would like to point our listeners to.

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Angela Andrieux: Yeah. So I think we sent you an offer. I'm not sure what the offer code is, but I think we'll you'll have that in your.

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Tanya: It was the Internet. Yes.

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Angela Andrieux: Can learn more about mileo@mileo.com MYLI O,

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Angela Andrieux: and if you want to find me you can find me@angelaandrew.com. It's my 1st name and last name, a NGEL. A.

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Angela Andrieux: A, NDRI, EUX.

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Angela Andrieux: So that's my personal website. If you want to take a look at my photography and any of the other things that I do. But to learn more about Mileo. Go to mileo.com and check out that offer code that we have for you. It'll be in the show notes, I'm sure, as well.

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Tanya: Yes, I will put it there. It's I think, for 20% off momentum 20. But for sure. I'll have a recording after this. So just stay tuned in just a minute to hear that. Okay, all right. Thank you so much. Angela, for joining me on the momentum podcast and sharing your knowledge and wisdom. This has been really great. And I can tell, this is something that you're super super passionate about.

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Angela Andrieux: Thank you. It's been my pleasure.

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Tanya: All right. It's been amazing. Thank you so much. Take care.

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What an eye-opening conversation with Angela! I had no idea how much I didn’t know about organizing and protecting my photos. I hope you found this as helpful as I did!

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